Transcript — Vigo County Budget Committee, 2026-08-12

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  • 0:00:00 [t=0] Thank you.
  • 0:00:30 [t=30] Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
  • 0:06:30 [t=390] Speaker 3 (chair): Beagle County Budget Committee is now in session.
  • 0:06:55 [t=415] Speaker 5: I believe we have a gentleman here who can come to the microphone and we can do business with him.
  • 0:07:07 [t=427] Speaker 6: Thank you. Brian DeHart, 911 Director.
  • 0:07:11 [t=431] Speaker 8: Okie dokie. What you got for us today?
  • 0:07:13 [t=433] Brian DeHart (department head): Well, I just here to see if there's any questions. There was two items that I requested for the 2027 budget. It was on Vesta. That would be out at 1235.
  • 0:07:29 [t=449] Speaker 12: Now the Vesta is going to be paid by the state.
  • 0:07:33 [t=453] Speaker 13: No, that's the other one. Vesta is our phone system.
  • 0:07:38 [t=458] Speaker 15: Okay.
  • 0:07:45 [t=465] Speaker 17 (councillor): Does the auditor's office have any questions on that particular program? that's a recording no that's that's our phone answering system
  • 0:07:57 [t=477] Speaker 19: the phone answering system okay
  • 0:07:58 [t=478] Speaker 20: which we must have
  • 0:08:02 [t=482] Speaker 24: anybody is this an upgrade brian it's not an upgrade we we have solarcom
  • 0:08:14 [t=494] Brian DeHart (department head): and we had it refreshed last year and then we've had nothing but problems with it and we're dropping
  • 0:08:20 [t=500] Speaker 24: phone calls which we cannot drop phone calls so this is a replacement yeah because it's not working
  • 0:08:27 [t=507] Speaker 17 (councillor): yes okay scott is that loud enough this is is the mic loud enough the podium
  • 0:08:36 [t=516] Speaker 30: i got a green light it's on but it's thank you
  • 0:08:45 [t=525] Speaker 31: i don't have any further questions if anybody else on the auditor staff has any questions
  • 0:08:50 [t=530] Speaker 34: My big question is, what time is it coming out at 1235 you said?
  • 0:08:56 [t=536] Speaker 37: 1235, equipment.
  • 0:08:58 [t=538] Speaker 40: How many of you money?
  • 0:09:03 [t=543] Brian DeHart (department head): I've got money this year that I think I can pay half of it. There's milestones, so there's two payments. I just need to make sure there's enough in there for next year.
  • 0:09:12 [t=552] Speaker 43: So, is there a yearly thing on this too?
  • 0:09:18 [t=558] Speaker 44: Yes, you'll have to have maintenance and stuff.
  • 0:09:25 [t=565] Speaker 47: I talk loud anyway. Okay.
  • 0:09:32 [t=572] Speaker 52: Do you know what the maintenance fee is on this?
  • 0:09:44 [t=584] Speaker 56: It's $32,000.
  • 0:09:48 [t=588] Speaker 58: Or no, hold on, take him back.
  • 0:10:03 [t=603] Brian DeHart (department head): Yeah, it's probably $32,849.56. That's because we've got $8, $10, and then $4 for the backup center. Each console's got to have one.
  • 0:10:18 [t=618] Speaker 66: How's the backup center? It's good.
  • 0:10:24 [t=624] Speaker 68: It's good.
  • 0:10:25 [t=625] Speaker 66: Pretty nice.
  • 0:10:26 [t=626] Speaker 68: Right now we haven't had to use it.
  • 0:10:29 [t=629] Speaker 70: Thankfully.
  • 0:10:30 [t=630] Speaker 69: Thankfully. You never know with these storms coming in.
  • 0:10:33 [t=633] Speaker 71: Any questions from the Alders office?
  • 0:10:39 [t=639] Speaker 72 (councillor): Thank you very much, Brian. Good job. And I really like your snazzy top. Thank you. It looks very emergency fitting. Prepared, I guess.
  • 0:10:51 [t=651] Speaker 74: Yep.
  • 0:10:52 [t=652] Speaker 75: And do you need anything? How about your employees? Have you got enough?
  • 0:10:58 [t=658] Brian DeHart (department head): Yes. Right now we're full staff, but six of them are still in training. So if we can get them all through training and everything, we'll be at full staff.
  • 0:11:07 [t=667] Speaker 77: Thank you very much.
  • 0:11:12 [t=672] Brian DeHart (department head): Do you need anything on the recorder? No. No. All right.
  • 0:11:17 [t=677] Speaker 78: We're good. Thank you.
  • 0:11:19 [t=679] Speaker 80: Thank you.
  • 0:11:20 [t=680] Speaker 78: Thank you.
  • 0:11:46 [t=706] Speaker 87: Thank you.
  • 0:12:16 [t=736] Speaker 17 (councillor): Larry, do you know if we have anybody scheduled to come in? Nobody.
  • 0:12:22 [t=742] Speaker 93: Is there anything that you folks need to talk about? Anyone take it away? Okie doke. Alrighty.
  • 0:12:30 [t=750] Speaker 96: Not a problem.
  • 0:12:34 [t=754] Speaker 93: It's going to be a busy day.
  • 0:12:38 [t=758] Speaker 98: How was it when you guys went home last night?
  • 0:12:44 [t=764] Speaker 72 (councillor): last night did you have to float a boat to get out of Terre Haute? Which way do you go to go home?
  • 0:12:58 [t=778] Speaker 17 (councillor): How about were the streets flooded? Boy going east it was really Poplar Street was a lake. It was It was really big. You can black it off for a bit till they finish the 911.
  • 0:13:23 [t=803] Speaker 5: Poplar Street right here by the GE was a mess. You could hardly get out of the parking lot here.
  • 0:13:38 [t=818] Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
  • 0:16:08 [t=968] Speaker 115: Thank you.
  • 0:16:38 [t=998] Judy Delisle (staff): passed out to you guys all the lit fund balances as of july 31st 26. pull your mic closer please
  • 0:16:46 [t=1006] Speaker 5: this is judy delisle from the auditor's office so i had given you all that's good
  • 0:16:55 [t=1015] Judy Delisle (staff): i had given you all the lit fund balances as of 731 and did a scenario that if um the rest of the revenues that came in and the remaining appropriations were spent for the for the rest of the year what the ending balance would be and that's just estimated so you can make decisions on what needs to be paid from where and so you have every lit fund there and then i also give you a form vigo county use of lit funds for 26 that will tell you out of every lit fund what is um what is appropriated for what department
  • 0:17:29 [t=1049] Judy Delisle (staff): Well, that was more just for your knowledge to make informed decision when you need to make decisions on these lit funds.
  • 0:17:42 [t=1062] Speaker 31: And that's what's appropriated for 2026, correct, Judy?
  • 0:17:45 [t=1065] Speaker 5: Yes. That's very useful. Thanks for doing that. That's really good.
  • 0:17:51 [t=1071] Judy Delisle (staff): and then I also had passed out to you all the new all the requests for positions
  • 0:18:02 [t=1082] Judy Delisle (staff): the top section has the grant positions that are going to that are not funded for 2027 and then the middle position is the new positions
  • 0:18:20 [t=1100] Speaker 122: that were requested for this year and the bottom part were grade changes
  • 0:18:38 [t=1118] Speaker 17 (councillor): judy if we do that deputy prosecutor pay increase then we have to do the public defender is that not correct? I'm not sure about that. I believe that's a state law.
  • 0:18:53 [t=1133] Speaker 104: Yeah that'd be a payroll. So that adds another 100 grand to the total there. Why is it did the
  • 0:19:05 [t=1145] Speaker 17 (councillor): prosecutor's office say why they needed those deputy prosecutors do you recall? I'm sure. They're
  • 0:19:11 [t=1151] Speaker 138: not asking for it they asked for a pay grade change pay increase why do they
  • 0:19:15 [t=1155] Judy Delisle (staff): need the pay increase because they can't keep their positions filled I believe is what Rob said
  • 0:19:31 [t=1171] Speaker 17 (councillor): tell me what we're paying for insurance now the total that we're paying for
  • 0:19:37 [t=1177] Speaker 146: County Insurance. I don't have that but I can get it for you. You can get it today
  • 0:19:46 [t=1186] Speaker 5: let's let's talk about that. Okay. Those are part-time employees is that correct?
  • 0:19:54 [t=1194] Speaker 139: Deputy prosecutors and public defenders are they part-time employees? I think they have both do they not? I don't dabble in payroll.
  • 0:20:07 [t=1207] Speaker 147: They're part-time. I think they're part-time.
  • 0:20:11 [t=1211] Speaker 148: That's getting to be difficult.
  • 0:20:12 [t=1212] Speaker 124 (staff): I thought deputy prosecutors, I thought they were full-time and part-time, but I could be wrong. I think you're right, Judy. I think they have full-time and part-time.
  • 0:20:21 [t=1221] Speaker 115: I think it's the public defenders that are part-time.
  • 0:20:24 [t=1224] Speaker 151: But they all get insurance.
  • 0:20:27 [t=1227] Speaker 129 (staff): Yeah, they're all offered insurance. And that's part of the attraction for them to take the job is the insurance.
  • 0:20:32 [t=1232] Judy Delisle (staff): The county portion that we just got the numbers for, the county portion, for a family plan is $38,449 for next year.
  • 0:20:47 [t=1247] Speaker 157: Woo-wee.
  • 0:20:52 [t=1252] Speaker 17 (councillor): What's the total? Do you get the total that we pay for our insurance for employees? I don't know how much longer we can keep on doing this. I mean, it's really skyrocketing. And should we ever think about being self-insured?
  • 0:21:21 [t=1281] Speaker 129 (staff): I don't know if that's, I mean, we are self-insured. I don't know.
  • 0:21:32 [t=1292] Speaker 17 (councillor): How can we afford to do this and have part-time employees be insured? Is this getting too heavy of a lift? I mean, I want to have insurance for people, but jeepers.
  • 0:21:51 [t=1311] Judy Delisle (staff): I know they did raise the employees portion this last year,
  • 0:21:56 [t=1316] Speaker 163: but I don't think it was enough to really offset much.
  • 0:22:01 [t=1321] Speaker 17 (councillor): I wonder if we can maybe check with other counties and see what they're doing.
  • 0:22:09 [t=1329] Larry Hutchings (county auditor): I think based on what I saw from some of the pamphlets I get for other counties, comparably to our size, we compare pretty well, I think, except for like maybe Marion County and maybe a couple more. But when you really look at what other counties pay their employees compared to what we pay our employees, I think Viggo County does it very well.
  • 0:22:40 [t=1360] Speaker 169: Do we?
  • 0:22:41 [t=1361] Larry Hutchings (county auditor): Oh, yeah. I'm not saying there isn't the opportunity to maybe tweak a little bit of that. and I'm not even, you know, in a part-time setting in a, you know, regular workplace, they don't particularly get that opportunity to have benefits. So that is, you know, definitely something that you might want to take a look at.
  • 0:23:17 [t=1397] Larry Hutchings (county auditor): I mean, I think it's phenomenal that we do it now, but, you know, that's for your decision.
  • 0:23:28 [t=1408] Speaker 17 (councillor): We have an extraordinary number of days off, I will say that. We do.
  • 0:23:35 [t=1415] Speaker 175 (councillor): We have good vacations and holidays, a lot of holidays.
  • 0:23:39 [t=1419] Larry Hutchings (county auditor): And benefit-wise, the package here is incredible. And they did raise last year. they did raise up a little bit the amount of benefits that were paid, cost to the employees.
  • 0:23:54 [t=1434] Larry Hutchings (county auditor): I don't recall anybody griping about it because still comparably to the regular workplace, it's way less for the same benefits or better, in my opinion. Well, I can tell you that for a fact.
  • 0:24:12 [t=1452] Speaker 180 (councillor): Well, this is, you know, this situation with the school that, you know, we're facing now is a big consideration.
  • 0:24:23 [t=1463] Speaker 17 (councillor): And the cut in what we'll be receiving from the state in the future is a big decision.
  • 0:24:34 [t=1474] Speaker 180 (councillor): I don't think the community at large is aware of what is going to be happening, of what we'll be receiving, how much less we'll be receiving. I think Kevin Gardner will be able to enlighten us about that in a very informed way in the next in re in very very near future how much less we'll be receiving tax wise and we're gonna have
  • 0:25:11 [t=1511] Larry Hutchings (county auditor): to be very careful about what we spend well we have an opportunity as a county and every county does in the state of indiana to have our community leaders financial leaders from the different areas around the counties like Riley, West Terre Haute, those type of communities to meet the city of Terre Haute to meet with county officials on what they're calling must.
  • 0:25:44 [t=1544] Larry Hutchings (county auditor): And I've sent you guys emails about that. The council actually needs to, in my opinion, get somebody involved with that so that we can all discuss how we want to look at LIT in the future, make recommendations. This is something that has been talked about at meetings that we go to and attend. And I know the mayor has reached out, and I had a discussion last night also about it. but we need to have that meeting within the next couple of months. It's just a meeting. That's all it is. There's no voting, no decisions. It's just a meeting. It's just talking. Because, yes, you're right.
  • 0:26:36 [t=1596] Larry Hutchings (county auditor): At some point, the funds that used to come in on a regular basis are not going to be there. And there are a lot of entities within the county that get paid with funds from grants that are not going to be there. And they're going to come with their request to the council to say, hey, we need this position. Can you help us? And it's going to be some hard decisions. So there's a lot of things coming down the pike.
  • 0:27:10 [t=1630] Speaker 17 (councillor): And truthfully, Larry, I mean, we're at that point. You know, we can no longer fund those grant positions. We can't do it. we simply cannot do it and and it seems like it so much of those positions are things that affect children you know the foster grandparents program the you know the casey the casa the you know the group homes the and so on um it's heartbreaking to be honest about it and to say no, we don't have the money. And I know we can't raise taxes on people. We cannot do it. I don't think that's the way you're going to go. And we'll not. We'll not do it.
  • 0:27:52 [t=1672] Speaker 7: I won't do it. I know Nancy won't do it. We won't do it.
  • 0:27:55 [t=1675] Larry Hutchings (county auditor): I did get an answer back from Rob Roberts. He said it's in his letter because we are losing ground on salaries is the primary issue.
  • 0:28:04 [t=1684] Larry Hutchings (county auditor): so I think basically what Judy or Devin had mentioned a moment ago that to be competitive
  • 0:28:11 [t=1691] Larry Hutchings (county auditor): that's why they're asking for the up in the salary increase
  • 0:28:18 [t=1698] Speaker 158: wow and that's 15 deputies arg
  • 0:28:33 [t=1713] Speaker 193: I just think we need to wait and we'll find out what's going to happen yeah you know I can't
  • 0:28:42 [t=1722] Speaker 195: it's
  • 0:28:44 [t=1724] Speaker 196: gotta be all's decision I mean I know that's tough and from where you sit right now it's simply
  • 0:28:51 [t=1731] Larry Hutchings (county auditor): $100,000 right and you know it goes before the full council but if it's your recommendation then that's the way you should go
  • 0:29:02 [t=1742] Speaker 199: we can't make that decision by ourselves
  • 0:29:09 [t=1749] Speaker 201: I mean you know it's
  • 0:29:10 [t=1750] Speaker 175 (councillor): if we spend that there then what do we cut someplace else and that's pretty tough
  • 0:29:21 [t=1761] Speaker 203: when I remember coffee
  • 0:29:24 [t=1764] Speaker 205: we give and how many positions was that before?
  • 0:29:30 [t=1770] Speaker 207: Quite a few.
  • 0:29:32 [t=1772] Speaker 205: Yeah, two or three of them, and that was grant funded just a few years ago.
  • 0:29:38 [t=1778] Speaker 209: Do you remember? And I know it's growing all the time, you know, and I hate that, but how can we keep doing that? You know what I mean?
  • 0:29:45 [t=1785] Speaker 17 (councillor): And those little kids that they serve, you know, I mean, you just, if you go over and look at the group home, look at those kids that wind up in group home, and look at the kids that wind up in, you know, juvenile center, where does this stop and how do we address this problem? I tell you, and community corrections in the jail, I mean, it's cyclical. And jeepers, creepers, I just, I wish somebody had an answer.
  • 0:30:20 [t=1820] Speaker 30: we need to we need a fairy godmother
  • 0:30:26 [t=1826] Larry Hutchings (county auditor): have you received direction from any of the other council of what they're wanting to do with budgets this year as far as well nobody wants to raise taxes some of the grant positions and all that have they said anything to you no they really don't want to touch it with a 10-foot
  • 0:30:44 [t=1844] Speaker 5: pole quite honestly that's why they don't want to be on the budget committee
  • 0:30:48 [t=1848] Speaker 17 (councillor): it is really hard I mean for you guys you know how tough it is to make ends meet you know you just have to bite the bullet
  • 0:31:01 [t=1861] Speaker 66: it's like being the wicked witch of the west
  • 0:31:06 [t=1866] Speaker 224: and the fact of the matter is the state is
  • 0:31:14 [t=1874] Speaker 17 (councillor): well they're fat cats and that's the truth I mean they they got a big surplus big surplus you know and they can brag about how wealthy they are and how well they've done but you know they're starving counties to death and that's not a good deal so we'll have to cause that bridge when we get there if we can afford a bridge okay well what do we got next
  • 0:31:41 [t=1901] Speaker 230 (chair): I guess we'll just refer this to the full council does that sound reasonable okay
  • 0:31:52 [t=1912] Speaker 231: what are we going to next
  • 0:32:11 [t=1931] Speaker 233: Okay.
  • 0:32:35 [t=1955] Speaker 230 (chair): Okay. Devin, if you'd talk, say that on the mic, if you'd be kind enough to do that.
  • 0:32:41 [t=1961] Devin (staff): okay so I just handed out community Corrections fund we made it a new location because it's never been in the county general as its own location so we went ahead and put in the FICA and perf and the group insurance that they were asking for benefits and then we did the sub the supplement community Corrections as well for the 700,000 which was Bill Watson's request we added that in here into County General but it's also reflected in 1233 as
  • 0:33:16 [t=1996] Speaker 244: well so you guys can decide if you want to pay pay it out of 1233 community Corrections depending on what Samantha says when she gets back to us and that
  • 0:33:26 [t=2006] Speaker 3 (chair): information okie dokie and the reason for this is community Corrections has been substantially funded in the past by the state and over the recent years they have reduced their contributions and so now it's become substantially funded by the legal county it is the employees are Beagle County employees and so forth and so that that's how that has wound up now it's funded as Beagle County funding so thank you very much for that that's about all we need to know about it I think that'd be right Judy I feel
  • 0:34:16 [t=2056] Judy Delisle (staff): like for you to make any of the decisions I mean you need the council attorney to interpret some of those codes okay
  • 0:34:31 [t=2071] Devin (staff): some of this stuff is also just from we have like a building maintenance Ricky needs an adjustment to his budget he is asking it's something I'll give you guys but he is asking to add five hundred thousand dollars to twelve thirty three as well for his building maintenance budget it looks like just this past whenever this was sent the beginning of august he's already spent 900 000 for two compressors 700 000 for water heater 30 000 for a rental a rented chiller and then he's also asking he spent money on the overtime for maintenance employees so he's also asking for an additional 20 000 for
  • 0:35:15 [t=2115] Devin (staff): his overtime budget and that comes out of county general so i'll pass this out so he needs 500 000
  • 0:35:22 [t=2122] Speaker 191: So $520,000, right?
  • 0:35:34 [t=2134] Speaker 252: Okay.
  • 0:35:43 [t=2143] Speaker 8: It doesn't sound like that's anything that you couldn't object to that.
  • 0:35:52 [t=2152] Speaker 175 (councillor): And $20,000 for overtime budget. Does that sound reasonable to you, Nancy? Okay. Budget committee approves this.
  • 0:36:14 [t=2174] Speaker 17 (councillor): And $520,000.
  • 0:36:18 [t=2178] Speaker 158: The budget committee approves $520,000.
  • 0:36:48 [t=2208] Devin (staff): The next one that I can pass out it's from Larry Robbins he is needing an additional request for workman's comp insurance for the 27 budget he originally asked for a hundred thousand in his budget but he is going to need to increase that to 175.
  • 0:37:23 [t=2243] Speaker 158: okay request for 175 thousand dollars an additional 75 000 for the highway department
  • 0:37:34 [t=2254] Speaker 17 (councillor): a workman's comp all in favor say aye aye that is approved for the workman workman's comp for Highway Department.
  • 0:38:12 [t=2292] Thank you.
  • 0:38:42 [t=2322] Speaker 270: So this is all the audited slides that you're going to receive. So there's general reassessment, co-elected ethical training, special purpose, and plat mapping.
  • 0:39:12 [t=2352] Speaker 272: Thank you.
  • 0:39:42 [t=2382] Speaker 275: to them. If you want to read those real quick and then I'll have all your links.
  • 0:40:12 [t=2412] Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
  • 0:42:12 [t=2532] Speaker 21: Thank you.
  • 0:42:42 [t=2562] Speaker 277: I can explain this to you if you'd like me to.
  • 0:43:08 [t=2588] Larry Hutchings (county auditor): So deputy auditor tax supervisor is currently at pay grade 9.
  • 0:43:13 [t=2593] Larry Hutchings (county auditor): Most supervisors in Vigo County are at least at pay grade 10. So I'm just simply requesting this position to be made at pay grade 10. And I know that everybody works hard. I get that. But I can tell you that CNAB is an animal all its own. It's yearly certified net assessed values. tax sales, maintain abatements process monthly death notices, property tax settlement spring and fall, works for the assessors yearly on assessed values and roll in to tax software abstract and data submission, grass and sewage lien inputs, training staff, maintaining requests from other
  • 0:43:59 [t=2639] Larry Hutchings (county auditor): counties on homesteads plus our own homesteads and keeping up to date
  • 0:44:03 [t=2643] Larry Hutchings (county auditor): with new law changes. There's a lot to it. I mean, it's...
  • 0:44:10 [t=2650] Speaker 178: I don't object to that, Larry. I'll tell you, it was underpaid. It's always been underpaid.
  • 0:44:16 [t=2656] Larry Hutchings (county auditor): Yeah, and I didn't do it last year because I was being very cautious.
  • 0:44:22 [t=2662] Larry Hutchings (county auditor): But it's just getting more detailed. And laws are changing like crazy.
  • 0:44:29 [t=2669] Speaker 283: and it's ever-changing.
  • 0:44:34 [t=2674] Speaker 17 (councillor): I know they say they didn't want to raise anything, but I'll tell you, it is underpaid, and I agree with it. I do agree with it. I just think there are times when you say, well, we don't want to raise anything, don't want to raise anything, but when there are times when people are underpaid,
  • 0:44:54 [t=2694] Speaker 281: it's not right for people to continue to not receive the pay that they should receive.
  • 0:45:02 [t=2702] Speaker 196: And the particular person that's in there now came in knowing nothing?
  • 0:45:07 [t=2707] Speaker 177: I know it. And it's a pain in the kazoo, and I know that.
  • 0:45:12 [t=2712] Speaker 196: And gutted it out. I mean, you know, they...
  • 0:45:15 [t=2715] Speaker 30: Hair on fire. I get it.
  • 0:45:18 [t=2718] Larry Hutchings (county auditor): So just like to keep that person that we have with the experience we have now.
  • 0:45:24 [t=2724] Speaker 287: It's been a cluster. I know it. I do know it.
  • 0:45:35 [t=2735] Larry Hutchings (county auditor): Then the other one, and I've said this a million times, that I was not a stipend person.
  • 0:45:45 [t=2745] Larry Hutchings (county auditor): In fact, I do not have a stipend. I don't take a stipend personally, and I won't take a stipend. That's just my personal opinion. but I have three people in my office right now three positions that go above and beyond for everybody in this county on request what we're doing right now the hours they spend after for meetings and people can say well that's their job description well i partly understand that but um the request they get in for information continuously from departments which we're we're happy to do um and you know we have devon now
  • 0:46:34 [t=2794] Larry Hutchings (county auditor): devon was you know part of the uh council's administrator so we're kind of absorbing that
  • 0:46:42 [t=2802] Larry Hutchings (county auditor): information also um so and in budgets the amount of hours that these ladies will spend uh in the
  • 0:46:58 [t=2818] Speaker 178: next four months you have no after hours you have no idea what it's going to be a storm like you can't believe with this school deal yeah it's gonna be talking about hair on fire
  • 0:47:13 [t=2833] Speaker 196: you look you got starting today yeah again I'm not a stipend person and
  • 0:47:23 [t=2843] Larry Hutchings (county auditor): anybody in my office can tell you that but I just feel that the extra work that goes in and the professionalism and the detailed and the honesty integrity of this these three positions in my humble opinion deserves something so I'm asking
  • 0:47:49 [t=2869] Larry Hutchings (county auditor): for $2,500 annually for each position well at the end of the year you're going
  • 0:47:54 [t=2874] Speaker 17 (councillor): to kick your rear end for not asking for more because when this school thing is
  • 0:47:58 [t=2878] Speaker 180 (councillor): over it's going to be what we went through with the jail I mean we had to have meetings at the home center people picketed people threatened and it's going to be the same thing I'm just saying you need a suit of armor it's going to be crazy and I wish it weren't but it is it's just what's going to
  • 0:48:26 [t=2906] Speaker 17 (councillor): happened I mean WTHI poll the other night 71 percent of the people are against
  • 0:48:32 [t=2912] Speaker 257: having a new school what do you think that's going to precipitate rubber tire storm
  • 0:48:56 [t=2936] Speaker 209: I know how hard they work.
  • 0:48:58 [t=2938] Speaker 299: But it's always been that way. You know, it's a good job.
  • 0:49:04 [t=2944] Speaker 104: I think what we're going to have to forward this to the full council is what we're going to have to do. That's all the finances. Yeah. Yeah.
  • 0:49:14 [t=2954] Speaker 158: So we're going to forward it to the full council.
  • 0:49:19 [t=2959] Speaker 17 (councillor): So there you go. And I appreciate what you guys do. I know you guys came in here, you know, brand new and so forth. I know if Judy had to have been here, I mean, you'd have been jumping off the courthouse dome, and I know that.
  • 0:49:35 [t=2975] Speaker 304: And they haven't used this up so far.
  • 0:49:37 [t=2977] Speaker 17 (councillor): You really have. You guys are good. So we'll send it to the council, and we'll do the best we can. So what else you got? You don't have any martinis, do you? I could use that. Margarita right now. That's what we get for getting a church auditor, for God's sakes. What you got next, you guys?
  • 0:50:07 [t=3007] Speaker 314: The next two things, they're just informational for you guys to have, but one of them is going to be the sheriff's office, all their stipends,
  • 0:50:15 [t=3015] Devin (staff): and who's in those positions at this time, and those have been updated for the budget. and then the next one is going to be the coroner this is just kind of a snapshot from payroll it is based off of 2021 through now and it's going to show you the people who are in those positions and what their rates were for their salary back then and kind of the increases that they got throughout the time I know Travis had made a comment that he didn't believe that his employees had gotten raises over certain years so i just kind of wanted to show you guys what they have
  • 0:50:50 [t=3050] Speaker 244: received in the past just informational for you to have
  • 0:51:04 [t=3064] Speaker 321: thank you my friends it doesn't say on the top but it is the board okay i'll write that on there
  • 0:51:15 [t=3075] Speaker 322: Well, these are the deputies.
  • 0:51:20 [t=3080] Speaker 324: Oh, and the employee. Yeah, got it.
  • 0:51:25 [t=3085] Speaker 327: Thank you.
  • 0:51:30 [t=3090] Speaker 330: Again, these are just information for you to have. We don't need to discuss anything like we really want here.
  • 0:51:45 [t=3105] Thank you.
  • 0:52:15 [t=3135] Speaker 336: Thank you.
  • 0:52:45 [t=3165] Speaker 8: Well, it has to be that a doctor has to be once again.
  • 0:52:54 [t=3174] Speaker 342: So in 2027, will that go down?
  • 0:53:00 [t=3180] Speaker 178: It depends if he's a doctor. If the doctor gets reelected or gets elected, it goes up.
  • 0:53:06 [t=3186] Speaker 346: It would not go down unless you guys would vote to change the salary ordinance for that.
  • 0:53:12 [t=3192] Speaker 348: So we got voted for that.
  • 0:53:14 [t=3194] Speaker 131: If that's something you want on your radar, then yes.
  • 0:53:18 [t=3198] Speaker 205: Well, I mean, I didn't know I thought there was something there that we had to do.
  • 0:53:23 [t=3203] Speaker 178: Whatever the, what it does is, you can reduce your salary,
  • 0:53:28 [t=3208] Speaker 17 (councillor): but whatever salary is, if a doctor gets elected, then it goes up half and ten as much. One and a half times. Right. One and a half what he gets now. Yes.
  • 0:53:36 [t=3216] Speaker 178: What the doctor gets. If he doesn't get it, the doctor gets it.
  • 0:53:44 [t=3224] Thank you. Thank you.
  • 0:54:44 [t=3284] Speaker 357: payroll is working up the insurance county just the county general insurance that the county pays she is working on that
  • 0:55:14 [t=3314] Thank you.
  • 0:55:44 [t=3344] Speaker 363 (staff): This is a request from the clerk.
  • 0:56:04 [t=3364] Speaker 364: She had already requested the $100,000 from the clerk fund for her digitization project. Now she's requesting an additional $200,000 from Fund 8895. And then she's also requesting a pay increase for the election day workers
  • 0:56:29 [t=3389] Speaker 363 (staff): because they get paid the set one-day rate, and she's asking for an increase for them. It says it's currently $175 a day, and she's asking for about $250 a day.
  • 0:56:52 [t=3412] Judy Delisle (staff): The reason why she did that is when you raised part-time up to $18 an hour last year. The people that work all day, like the inspector and the judges, they have set rates that I believe, I know when Brad was in it, we upped those. So people that are just working election day, they're not in those capacities.
  • 0:57:12 [t=3432] Speaker 115: They get $18 an hour and make more than what the people...
  • 0:57:16 [t=3436] Speaker 129 (staff): Work until the poll, until the election's turned in. So that is why Leanna and Elizabeth put that in.
  • 0:57:23 [t=3443] Speaker 375: Makes sense.
  • 0:57:24 [t=3444] Speaker 17 (councillor): so it does make sense that we would approve this request to raise to approve these two funds would you agree with that hancy yeah okay a motion to approve all in favor say aye aye The motion passes on the appropriation request for the clerk, fund 8895.
  • 0:58:11 [t=3491] Judy Delisle (staff): Actually, there were two there. Oh, yeah. The 8895, those are their incentive funds. One is a county general incentive fund. and the other is the clerk incentive fund that they get reimbursements from DCS for.
  • 0:58:29 [t=3509] Speaker 163: Thank you.
  • 0:58:30 [t=3510] Speaker 384: And motion passes on both funds. Thank you for clarifying that, Judy.
  • 0:58:48 [t=3528] Speaker 3 (chair): And then the remainder of the cost, She says it will be paid for the perpetuation fund, yeah.
  • 0:59:20 [t=3560] Speaker 389: for the pool workers we can bring that back up too when we talk about series one just to remind you guys of what she's asking for for that request
  • 0:59:34 [t=3574] Speaker 390: but this way you have it ahead of time you can look it over see the numbers
  • 0:59:49 [t=3589] Speaker 17 (councillor): Do you want me to state both of those funds again separately? Okay. We have a request for $200,000 from Fund 8895 IVD Incentive Fund to continue the record digitization project. All in favor say aye. Aye. Motion passes. We have a request from Fund 8895, a shared fund between the clerk's office and prosecutor's office. Let's see, requesting $200,000 used to scan the remaining court records currently reused records.
  • 1:00:52 [t=3652] Speaker 393: Let's see.
  • 1:00:57 [t=3657] Speaker 17 (councillor): Let's see, the second request is for $100,000 for $80,000, $99,000 toward the project to to cover majority of attached project proposal to be played from the clerks.
  • 1:01:18 [t=3678] Speaker 394: Hold on.
  • 1:01:29 [t=3689] Speaker 396: 8895 is the, is that the county general one?
  • 1:01:34 [t=3694] Speaker 398: Do you have a password? Does she have it? Yes, she has it.
  • 1:01:38 [t=3698] Judy Delisle (staff): 88.95 is a 4D incentive fund, which they're scanning 4D records, so they can use that money for that.
  • 1:01:54 [t=3714] Speaker 129 (staff): To cover the majority of the attached project for proposal.
  • 1:02:00 [t=3720] Speaker 122: Well, they're going to do it in different phases. they're trying to tap into their incentive funds and everything so is this one request or two requests
  • 1:02:12 [t=3732] Speaker 404: well technically it would be two a hundred thousand out of the eight eight nine nine and then eight eight nine five yeah and then from eight eight nine five would be two hundred thousand
  • 1:02:22 [t=3742] Speaker 407: two hundred thousand okay so we approved the two hundred thousand yes yeah have a have a proposal
  • 1:02:28 [t=3748] Speaker 17 (councillor): have a request for a hundred thousand from 88 clerk fund 8899 to cover the majority of the attached project proposal from the clerk's perpetuation fund all in saber say aye aye there you are Leanna and Elizabeth met with us
  • 1:02:53 [t=3773] Judy Delisle (staff): yesterday it's going to be a long drawn-out process over several years but there's over 100 to say stuff from the 1800s. So they're going to start on the 4D part, which they can tap into these incentive funds to pay for that. Good deal.
  • 1:03:28 [t=3808] Speaker 221: Well, that's going to be a big job.
  • 1:03:48 [t=3828] Speaker 414: I think we were talking yesterday, and it's like several different departments have known that they needed to get the scanning done to preserve the records. Well, they do it.
  • 1:03:58 [t=3838] Speaker 17 (councillor): Can they take the scanner to where the records are, or how are they going to do that?
  • 1:04:05 [t=3845] Speaker 129 (staff): I don't know how they're doing it.
  • 1:04:06 [t=3846] Judy Delisle (staff): I really don't. But they had ARCA search here yesterday, and then they had their 4D cost allocation people, now conned with them, but what they could pay for what out of. But it's like a lot of these departments that have these projects haven't asked in years and it's just been put off and put off and put off like area planning they've asked for theirs too
  • 1:04:55 [t=3895] Thank you.
  • 1:05:25 [t=3925] Speaker 122: Okay, I got a number for the insurance for County General.
  • 1:05:33 [t=3933] Speaker 124 (staff): Are you ready? $10,698,895.
  • 1:05:45 [t=3945] Judy Delisle (staff): Now I asked her just to do County General because the ones that are paid out of their other funds are their own funds to sustain it.
  • 1:05:53 [t=3953] Speaker 357: so this is just a county general cost for the county people who are paid out of county general
  • 1:06:07 [t=3967] Speaker 8: Okay, $1,698,895.
  • 1:06:27 [t=3987] Speaker 421: $10 million.
  • 1:06:29 [t=3989] Speaker 5: $10 million, I mean $10 million. I have a hard time saying that. I was just trying to get a bargain.
  • 1:06:37 [t=3997] Speaker 314: I think the only thing left on our list here is maybe to talk about the towers and where you guys are wanting that to be paid out of because currently it's not in the budget somewhere
  • 1:06:50 [t=4010] Judy Delisle (staff): and I feel like that is where the council attorney needs to step up and what's your thought Judy well I don't know I mean I've interpreted those IC codes I mean you had the same thing with community correction bill read it one way for and state board of accounts read it another way and you know i interpreted a different way and i i just think it's for someone
  • 1:07:17 [t=4037] Speaker 429: smarter than us to dig through those okay since we messed up anyway this year and it's now 1233
  • 1:07:28 [t=4048] Speaker 432: that you go ahead and continue all that until the next year?
  • 1:07:34 [t=4054] Judy Delisle (staff): No, LIT Correctional Rehab can only be paid for jail things. Yep. We paid the first payment I paid out of LIT Public Safety. Okay. So 2026 is done. Oh. Okay. So we either have to budget out of one of those other ones for 2027's payment or additional appropriation at the beginning of the year for that. payment once someone smarter than us figures out what we can pay from what. And I did send all that information about six weeks ago to the council attorney, and then I printed it off again for Steve.
  • 1:08:16 [t=4096] Speaker 384: Should we wait until we talk to Samantha to see what she recommends? Are we talking about the correct call we have?
  • 1:08:23 [t=4103] Speaker 436: No. Just an hour.
  • 1:08:24 [t=4104] Speaker 115: any of those lit funds I mean they have specific purposes on them
  • 1:08:30 [t=4110] Judy Delisle (staff): and I did send all the correspondence that we've had with state board of accounts on different things that we've asked you know about community corrections and juvenile and I sent all the responses that we had along with that so well she's done out from under that
  • 1:08:49 [t=4129] Speaker 17 (councillor): recount case now so I think she would have time to look at it I just believe she'd make that call.
  • 1:09:01 [t=4141] Speaker 115: I just feel like she needs to be leading the council.
  • 1:09:06 [t=4146] Speaker 441: Yep.
  • 1:09:13 [t=4153] Speaker 297: We'll wait for her again.
  • 1:09:15 [t=4155] Speaker 260: Okay. I'll give her a call.
  • 1:09:23 [t=4163] Judy Delisle (staff): I did find out that the EMA had asked for radios, and I think it was a little less than $70,000 for the whole contract. And I did find out, I think Steve had asked if it could be paid out of lit public safety, and it can be paid out of lit public safety. But then again, that's the fund that we use up all of it to. so you may want to think about shifting i don't know and that makes sense doesn't it yeah you guys have all that information to decide on what you think's best yeah i believe it was what it was it 68 68 000. and that's the whole contract just to get it done and
  • 1:10:12 [t=4212] Speaker 17 (councillor): do you have that account there uh we go ahead and make a motion to pay for the radios you
  • 1:10:26 [t=4226] Speaker 129 (staff): may ask for their radios to be paid out of lit public safety i think they asked for it out of
  • 1:10:32 [t=4232] Judy Delisle (staff): county general and then steve had brought up you know what about public safety and i did find that that was an approved expense.
  • 1:10:40 [t=4240] Speaker 450: Okay.
  • 1:10:46 [t=4246] Judy Delisle (staff): I think we have it added in already, so when we go through public safety,
  • 1:10:51 [t=4251] Speaker 163: it will be reflected in there. Okay. You need a motion or not?
  • 1:10:57 [t=4257] Speaker 129 (staff): I don't think so until we go through that fund. Got it.
  • 1:11:08 [t=4268] Speaker 455: Yep, I see it.
  • 1:11:16 [t=4276] Speaker 456: What's next?
  • 1:11:18 [t=4278] Speaker 458: I believe that that's all the requests or any changes that we had it on our list.
  • 1:11:33 [t=4293] Speaker 314: If you want to start going through the two threes and fours, we can pull it up on the screen and we can start going through line by line on certain departments we can start with
  • 1:11:42 [t=4302] Speaker 390: county general wherever you would like to steer the boat what do you want to do what's the best for you guys
  • 1:12:03 [t=4323] Speaker 2: we'll just start at the top of the list Yeah.
  • 1:12:10 [t=4330] Speaker 433: Okay, so go through the binders.
  • 1:12:37 [t=4357] Thank you.
  • 1:13:07 [t=4387] Speaker 472: Thank you.
  • 1:13:37 [t=4417] Speaker 5: We probably need to be out here by 1 o'clock, I think. Do we need to be out here by 1 o'clock?
  • 1:13:49 [t=4429] Speaker 477: Yikes.
  • 1:13:54 [t=4434] Speaker 478: Okay.
  • 1:13:56 [t=4436] Speaker 8: Where do you want to start? Alrighty, I got it.
  • 1:14:07 [t=4447] Speaker 488: is it showing it on your screen nope
  • 1:14:37 [t=4477] Speaker 389: because Morgan's so what you have in your binder is not reflecting the series ones and me and Morgan have already put the series ones in so I would like for you to also just kind of see here it is
  • 1:14:49 [t=4489] Speaker 495: here it comes okay because this will give you just a grand total I know we're not talking about
  • 1:14:56 [t=4496] Speaker 496: Here's Scott.
  • 1:15:00 [t=4500] Speaker 498: Look at a little bitty screen.
  • 1:15:04 [t=4504] Speaker 500: Yeah, can you make that bigger?
  • 1:15:08 [t=4508] Speaker 501: Woo!
  • 1:15:20 [t=4520] Speaker 503: Thank you.
  • 1:15:36 [t=4536] Speaker 175 (councillor): I think the education guys went at 2 o'clock.
  • 1:15:50 [t=4550] Speaker 510: I don't want to be dragging a bunch of crap out here when people are in here.
  • 1:16:13 [t=4573] Speaker 515: No. What we ought to do is move down one.
  • 1:16:32 [t=4592] Speaker 519: We're getting comfy here. So we can see right now.
  • 1:16:36 [t=4596] Speaker 522: That's all right.
  • 1:16:42 [t=4602] Speaker 524: Oh, that's better.
  • 1:16:43 [t=4603] Speaker 363 (staff): okay so this is for adult probation basically they just have a one thousand dollar increase in their two series for office supplies from last year and then at the bottom they have equipment
  • 1:17:05 [t=4625] Speaker 529: new for a thousand dollars and we put a note in there because it's for a microwave
  • 1:17:09 [t=4629] Speaker 532: $1,000 microwave? Holy macaroni.
  • 1:17:15 [t=4635] Speaker 534: Those dishes too.
  • 1:17:20 [t=4640] Speaker 537: Nice try.
  • 1:17:23 [t=4643] Speaker 363 (staff): There's a slight increase there on service agreements for that 148, but that's not really it.
  • 1:17:29 [t=4649] Speaker 529: Otherwise, the rest of their budget stayed the same from last year.
  • 1:17:34 [t=4654] Speaker 540: Okay. Microwave. Wow. they need to microwave tower
  • 1:17:46 [t=4666] Speaker 124 (staff): at this point this would be when you you don't want to approve it or ask further questions
  • 1:17:50 [t=4670] Speaker 72 (councillor): so we know microwave no microwave for a thousand bucks that's out
  • 1:17:58 [t=4678] Speaker 109: completely out or do you just want to cut it well micro we want you to 250 bucks or one
  • 1:18:09 [t=4689] Judy Delisle (staff): So would you like to reduce it or? I think what Leanna said is she reduced her office supplies for $1,000.
  • 1:18:23 [t=4703] Judy Delisle (staff): And she was putting that in for $1,000. So it would be the same budget. But she didn't have any four series. So that's why.
  • 1:18:31 [t=4711] Speaker 551: Just leave it in. So she didn't have to come to do an additional reallocation.
  • 1:18:39 [t=4719] Judy Delisle (staff): and she changed it herself. So it was actually a decrease in the office supplies.
  • 1:18:44 [t=4724] Speaker 554: There you go. Okay. You should have to ask the question, but this is the what series, did you say?
  • 1:18:49 [t=4729] Speaker 555: It needs to be in the Capital Outlay at a four series.
  • 1:18:52 [t=4732] Speaker 557: Okay.
  • 1:18:52 [t=4732] Speaker 559: You can have to actually make it. No big deal. Good catch, Judy.
  • 1:19:00 [t=4740] Speaker 357: So this will be if you want to approve and do your voting and so we can move on to another one.
  • 1:19:06 [t=4746] Speaker 560: What do we do? do we have to
  • 1:19:13 [t=4753] Speaker 129 (staff): budget committee approves the
  • 1:19:18 [t=4758] Speaker 139: just the adult probation
  • 1:19:23 [t=4763] Speaker 563: adult probation budget is approved
  • 1:19:24 [t=4764] Speaker 124 (staff): two threes and fours
  • 1:19:26 [t=4766] Speaker 17 (councillor): two threes and fours okay thank you very much see this is why she should get her stipend
  • 1:19:34 [t=4774] Speaker 565: I might want to say all in favor I don't know All in favor say aye.
  • 1:19:38 [t=4778] Speaker 568: Aye.
  • 1:19:42 [t=4782] Speaker 565: Yeah, all right.
  • 1:19:49 [t=4789] Speaker 573: There he's such a stickler, isn't he? I just want it to be illegal.
  • 1:19:55 [t=4795] Speaker 576: We'll get even with him.
  • 1:19:56 [t=4796] Speaker 579: You know what? I'll still have a description.
  • 1:19:58 [t=4798] Speaker 580: Okay.
  • 1:20:05 [t=4805] Speaker 585: Oh, it's not there. Yeah.
  • 1:20:11 [t=4811] Speaker 588: There we go. We get planned. I know.
  • 1:20:18 [t=4818] Speaker 590: It's probably a bigger open room. It's working better.
  • 1:20:23 [t=4823] Speaker 592: I don't know.
  • 1:20:35 [t=4835] Speaker 595: Area planning.
  • 1:20:37 [t=4837] Speaker 600: It looks like they have a little bit of increase in legal services
  • 1:21:04 [t=4864] Speaker 363 (staff): in the three series. Their big increase is for contractual services for their scanning of their files because they have
  • 1:21:15 [t=4875] Speaker 602: quite a few outdated.
  • 1:21:20 [t=4880] Speaker 363 (staff): And they've run out of room to store things. So they're needing...
  • 1:21:27 [t=4887] Speaker 495: Yes. So this is where they gave you guys two different proposals. we put the highest one in here just to cover both.
  • 1:21:47 [t=4907] Speaker 72 (councillor): What did we talk about doing about that? Do you remember? Because you said you could get them done for next to nothing.
  • 1:21:55 [t=4915] Speaker 363 (staff): Well this was just the higher of the two quotes they had. That way if it's approved, it's approved at the higher amount and then they'll...
  • 1:22:03 [t=4923] Speaker 616: And then just not spend it. Right.
  • 1:22:07 [t=4927] Speaker 618: And this comes from the general front, right?
  • 1:22:09 [t=4929] Speaker 616: Yes, these are all out of general.
  • 1:22:12 [t=4932] Speaker 619: Okay.
  • 1:22:14 [t=4934] Speaker 17 (councillor): Motion to approve area plan budget. All in favor say aye. Aye. Motion passes to approve area plan.
  • 1:22:29 [t=4949] Thank you. Okay.
  • 1:23:00 [t=4980] Speaker 628: Now we're going to the auditor.
  • 1:23:06 [t=4986] Speaker 630: What happened to the assessor? The assessor is just a one series.
  • 1:23:18 [t=4998] Speaker 632: They don't have any two, threes or four. Okay.
  • 1:23:21 [t=5001] Speaker 633: Gotcha. And the auditor looks like he's empty.
  • 1:23:27 [t=5007] Speaker 636: I told the auditors. We just haven't put the...
  • 1:23:35 [t=5015] Speaker 545: That's the one that we handed out to you earlier today. So yeah, it's not in your binder. I'm sorry.
  • 1:23:47 [t=5027] Speaker 641: We can just do that. Okay, here we go.
  • 1:23:52 [t=5032] Speaker 643: Thanks, Leigh Ann.
  • 1:23:57 [t=5037] Speaker 645: Okay.
  • 1:24:07 [t=5047] Speaker 646: Okay, what have we got?
  • 1:24:10 [t=5050] Speaker 363 (staff): There we go. We didn't really have a whole lot of changes.
  • 1:24:20 [t=5060] Judy Delisle (staff): We did do the scanners and the new equipment, but it's going in IT's budget because now with the digital claims, there's a lot of scanning.
  • 1:24:37 [t=5077] Speaker 414: So we're going to get a couple digital scanners for a couple offices.
  • 1:24:50 [t=5090] Speaker 660: Thank you.
  • 1:25:20 [t=5120] Speaker 661: I already took off 23, 24, so.
  • 1:25:29 [t=5129] Speaker 664: Took off 25.
  • 1:25:32 [t=5132] Yeah.
  • 1:25:33 [t=5133] Speaker 664: They already took off the other ears.
  • 1:25:50 [t=5150] Speaker 669: Any motion to the auditor?
  • 1:26:04 [t=5164] Speaker 281: A motion to approve the auditor budget. All in favor say aye. Aye. Approved.
  • 1:26:12 [t=5172] Speaker 672: Thank you. You're welcome.
  • 1:26:16 [t=5176] Speaker 402: Building inspector. Okay.
  • 1:26:37 [t=5197] Speaker 674: Okay.
  • 1:26:47 [t=5207] Speaker 363 (staff): He just had a few, like, small increases across things just for inflation, basically, and then he had $50,000 for a vehicle in the 4 Series.
  • 1:27:03 [t=5223] Speaker 600: Just a few.
  • 1:27:07 [t=5227] Speaker 678: Tammy?
  • 1:27:17 [t=5237] Speaker 687: that's what we pay for the inch that's any free base that we get back from these different things
  • 1:27:26 [t=5246] Speaker 689: okay
  • 1:27:32 [t=5252] Speaker 691: so that's good
  • 1:27:47 [t=5267] Speaker 692: Thank you.
  • 1:28:17 [t=5297] Speaker 695: I think it was just a vehicle for, right now they just borrow a vehicle and so they were needing a new one for.
  • 1:28:39 [t=5319] Judy Delisle (staff): I believe he said that they were like somebody from down in Sullivan was going to fill one of those spots and needed a vehicle because he had an open spot and he had
  • 1:28:52 [t=5332] Speaker 700: to give the prior one back the highway I thought what he said yeah member.
  • 1:28:59 [t=5339] Speaker 374: He has other vehicles. He has other vehicles.
  • 1:29:20 [t=5360] he's up
  • 1:29:36 [t=5376] Speaker 708: he's up
  • 1:29:50 [t=5390] Speaker 363 (staff): He's up because of the vehicle, and then he's up in group insurance. It looks like he has more employees that took the insurance.
  • 1:30:12 [t=5412] Speaker 175 (councillor): Motion to approve. All in favor say aye. Aye. His budget's approved.
  • 1:30:20 [t=5420] Speaker 718: Okay, building maintenance.
  • 1:30:27 [t=5427] Speaker 721: Thank you.
  • 1:30:57 [t=5457] Okay.
  • 1:31:09 [t=5469] Speaker 725: This is all my hat. He was cleaning and keeping my house. Oh my gosh. I love it.
  • 1:31:18 [t=5478] Speaker 728: Okay.
  • 1:31:27 [t=5487] Speaker 231: You have to buy that new elevator too.
  • 1:31:57 [t=5517] Speaker 732: okay
  • 1:32:06 [t=5526] Speaker 725: I'll be a motion to approve for all I say to say aye
  • 1:32:12 [t=5532] Speaker 734: motion is approved for building maintenance rocket j squirrel in charge
  • 1:32:24 [t=5544] Speaker 735: Ricky does a good job.
  • 1:32:29 [t=5549] Speaker 738: Could I look at the court?
  • 1:32:54 [t=5574] Speaker 628: Here she had a decrease in contractual services.
  • 1:33:01 [t=5581] Speaker 743: I said decrease.
  • 1:33:06 [t=5586] Speaker 745: What did you say? Contractual services?
  • 1:33:12 [t=5592] Speaker 124 (staff): Well, it's decreased because I think they're 4D consultant. They're paying it now out of one of their incentive funds. Incentive out in general. and as devin pointed out there's a little narrative behind this
  • 1:33:30 [t=5610] Speaker 750: the next sheet behind here it explains all the ups and downs
  • 1:33:42 [t=5622] Speaker 757: motion to approve all in favor say aye aye aye approved
  • 1:33:52 [t=5632] Speaker 758: Canecious, woo, ooh, ooh, batten down your hatch. Maybe not.
  • 1:34:22 [t=5662] Speaker 363 (staff): For commissioners, there's just some increases in the liability insurance. postage
  • 1:34:55 [t=5695] Speaker 762: legal services the Hamilton donation went up a little bit
  • 1:35:20 [t=5720] Speaker 765: No, it went down.
  • 1:35:28 [t=5728] Speaker 766: Yeah.
  • 1:35:30 [t=5730] Speaker 767: Yeah, we have the Series 1s.
  • 1:35:50 [t=5750] Speaker 776: and if you're looking at your courses payroll selling the numbers i know that so
  • 1:35:57 [t=5757] Speaker 777: the screens have your series ones if you're looking for like a great total comparison we just weren't talking about the ones yet but you have some decisions to make so
  • 1:36:20 [t=5780] Speaker 783: Thank you.
  • 1:36:50 [t=5810] Speaker 600: So the total budget for 26 was the 4.788.
  • 1:36:59 [t=5819] Speaker 363 (staff): So they're up a little bit, but not as drastic as it looks if you look at just the 4 million. It's basically the two opposite sides that we're looking at.
  • 1:37:11 [t=5831] Speaker 211: Yeah, I see that.
  • 1:37:15 [t=5835] Judy Delisle (staff): Well, and almost a million of that is that Hamilton donation that we have to give.
  • 1:37:19 [t=5839] Speaker 793: it's mandated by state right
  • 1:37:45 [t=5865] Speaker 796: so on the left you have your 20 26 total budget and then on the right it's your 27 requested budget
  • 1:37:51 [t=5871] Speaker 798: kind of gives you some comparison maybe that might be right next to each other
  • 1:38:08 [t=5888] Speaker 802: yeah
  • 1:38:21 [t=5901] Speaker 806: Any questions? You said most of that was the Hamilton Center.
  • 1:38:28 [t=5908] Speaker 124 (staff): $820,733. What was that for, I wonder?
  • 1:38:32 [t=5912] Judy Delisle (staff): That's what we're mandated to pay. Every county has to pay the mental health thing, and the state gives us the number on that.
  • 1:38:38 [t=5918] Speaker 396: Why do you think it's go up? It's based.
  • 1:38:44 [t=5924] Speaker 124 (staff): Mel needs a new car. No.
  • 1:38:46 [t=5926] Judy Delisle (staff): I mean, it's not my forte, but I think it's based on, like, the levy and I'm not sure. The state gives us the number.
  • 1:38:56 [t=5936] Speaker 414: It's not my wheelhouse.
  • 1:39:16 [t=5956] Thank you.
  • 1:39:46 [t=5986] Judy Delisle (staff): you have the mental health i did print that off the mental health for the 8 20 733 that
  • 1:40:08 [t=6008] Speaker 357: is calculated by the estimated maximum levy for rego county
  • 1:40:16 [t=6016] Speaker 813: Motion to approve. All in favor say aye. Aye. Okay.
  • 1:40:46 [t=6046] Speaker 817: Order who has been changing for these maintes?
  • 1:40:57 [t=6057] Speaker 818: Preparation is taking its chance to pay off that tax rate in life.
  • 1:41:08 [t=6068] Speaker 819: Secondary academic debt is taken by their debt and board members in their
  • 1:41:13 [t=6073] Speaker 175 (councillor): Payroll down. No, it went up because his salary went up.
  • 1:41:30 [t=6090] Speaker 829: I wonder why it went up so much. It was. Oh, because it was so low, I guess.
  • 1:41:39 [t=6099] Speaker 830: Yeah.
  • 1:41:40 [t=6100] Speaker 831: Yeah, he doesn't really have too many changes. Yeah, there's been not the worst out there. It stays pretty steady.
  • 1:41:50 [t=6110] Speaker 641: That morgue down there is starting to make some money though. That's helpful.
  • 1:41:58 [t=6118] Speaker 835: That is pretty steady. Toxicology. We had a lot of drug stuff this year. Gosh.
  • 1:42:11 [t=6131] Speaker 837: contractual services went up i know there's not a note here if you want to add that in morgan you can but it's for cell the cellular service for their ipads when they're out in the fields
  • 1:42:19 [t=6139] Speaker 835: yeah so that went up because of that yeah they all got those this year for the first time that's good
  • 1:42:28 [t=6148] Speaker 839: and then the autopsy fees the note here it says there's an increase in fees from the doctor but they're also doing less of those
  • 1:42:41 [t=6161] Speaker 757: Okie dokie. Motion to approve. All in favor say aye. Aye.
  • 1:42:53 [t=6173] Speaker 841: The ayes have it.
  • 1:42:57 [t=6177] Speaker 842: Next. Next we'll do community corrections.
  • 1:43:05 [t=6185] Speaker 779: Community corrections is not in your binder. It's something I just handed out to you this morning. you do have the work release that bill lawson gave you guys for the 70 000 but then i also gave you this right now 700 000. and then i just gave you guys a little snapshot of that too with
  • 1:43:24 [t=6204] Speaker 843: the benefits that we included
  • 1:43:39 [t=6219] Speaker 849: Thank you.
  • 1:44:09 [t=6249] Speaker 389: Thank you. location 1122 on it it'll show you 700 000 and then the fika perf and group insurance it was just a single paper i handed this morning
  • 1:45:09 [t=6309] Speaker 863: I don't know if you can see from way over here, but it looks like that.
  • 1:45:19 [t=6319] Speaker 777: If not, it's up here on the screen for you.
  • 1:45:21 [t=6321] Speaker 431: Oh, well, it's up here. That's okay.
  • 1:45:26 [t=6326] Speaker 777: Okay.
  • 1:45:34 [t=6334] Speaker 661: We're not doing that.
  • 1:45:35 [t=6335] Speaker 870: Yeah, and the 700,000 is also reflected in 1233.
  • 1:45:52 [t=6352] Speaker 876: In 1233. That's what's potentially going to have to be moved to here.
  • 1:45:59 [t=6359] Speaker 363 (staff): To here. Yes, to increase theirs by quite a bit.
  • 1:46:04 [t=6364] Speaker 881: The bottom, almost .
  • 1:46:34 [t=6394] Speaker 562: Okay, a motion to approve on community corrections. On favor say aye.
  • 1:46:46 [t=6406] Speaker 888: As a favorable recommendation, yes.
  • 1:46:51 [t=6411] Speaker 889: Yeah.
  • 1:46:53 [t=6413] Speaker 891: Okey-doke.
  • 1:47:04 [t=6424] Speaker 641: Okay, quartz I guess is next.
  • 1:47:34 [t=6454] Thank you.
  • 1:48:04 [t=6484] Speaker 894: It's not bad.
  • 1:48:34 [t=6514] Speaker 900: The big increase on here is for Judge Ready's program. Look at that.
  • 1:48:40 [t=6520] Speaker 901: That's for Judge Ready's program.
  • 1:48:47 [t=6527] Speaker 902: That's what the biggest increase is.
  • 1:48:48 [t=6528] Speaker 622: What is that contractual services, I wonder?
  • 1:48:50 [t=6530] Speaker 619: Look at that, 110, that's 250.
  • 1:48:54 [t=6534] Speaker 906: That's Judge Ready's program. I'll put that on here.
  • 1:48:57 [t=6537] Judy Delisle (staff): It's $250,000. This year you paid for it out of the opioid funding.
  • 1:49:07 [t=6547] Speaker 908: Okay. We'll have to have a gold roping.
  • 1:49:13 [t=6553] Speaker 913: Next year it's being asked to come out of County General.
  • 1:49:17 [t=6557] Speaker 914: Well, it may not happen.
  • 1:49:23 [t=6563] Speaker 913: There's a lot of things that are being asked to move to County General for next year.
  • 1:49:27 [t=6567] Speaker 915: A lot.
  • 1:49:28 [t=6568] Larry Hutchings (county auditor): Well, because a lot of this, the ask last year were from, you know, like we talked about grants and also from opioid funds and so on and so forth. It's not as much, that's for sure. I'm not saying it's disappearing, but it's definitely not near as much as what it was.
  • 1:49:53 [t=6593] Speaker 920: Other things could come up.
  • 1:49:55 [t=6595] Larry Hutchings (county auditor): It's possible, but it's not something that we can bank on.
  • 1:49:59 [t=6599] Speaker 180 (councillor): And not during the 12th years. I mean, those kinds of things are not being created. So those are the difficulties.
  • 1:50:09 [t=6609] Larry Hutchings (county auditor): And now that it's more widely known about, it's being stretched out. So it's...
  • 1:50:15 [t=6615] Speaker 924: Yeah.
  • 1:50:18 [t=6618] Speaker 178: Well, you know, when Norm Howard's program, he got hooked into that Lilly Foundation,
  • 1:50:23 [t=6623] Speaker 180 (councillor): and that is really a blessing for this community. He's going to get a million dollars.
  • 1:50:28 [t=6628] Speaker 927: That's incredible.
  • 1:50:30 [t=6630] Speaker 180 (councillor): It is amazing for kids who have no place to go. And you need to go down and look at that house that they have turned. I mean, Mark Klinkenbeard worked his butt off down there and yawning together. They've really made something happen.
  • 1:50:46 [t=6646] Speaker 277: I do plan on going down and visiting that.
  • 1:50:48 [t=6648] Speaker 180 (councillor): It's, it's, and the kids just, one little guy got adopted by a family in Edinburgh, Indiana, and he didn't want to leave.
  • 1:50:57 [t=6657] Speaker 929: Okay, can, can it still come out of the old field?
  • 1:51:03 [t=6663] Speaker 432: They can't? Can it still come out of the old field?
  • 1:51:08 [t=6668] Speaker 935: I don't think there's much left.
  • 1:51:10 [t=6670] Speaker 936: There's not much left?
  • 1:51:11 [t=6671] Speaker 543: It just depends on what's left after the end of the year and we won't know until.
  • 1:51:15 [t=6675] Speaker 936: And we won't know if anything else comes in.
  • 1:51:17 [t=6677] Judy Delisle (staff): we did get a payment a couple weeks ago but it was very small that's the only payment we had this year so i wouldn't trust
  • 1:51:28 [t=6688] Speaker 939: at this point
  • 1:51:35 [t=6695] Speaker 407: well a motion to approve for the courts all in favor say aye aye
  • 1:51:40 [t=6700] Speaker 17 (councillor): okie dokie next that would be the council and you know we live large
  • 1:52:10 [t=6730] Speaker 946: Oh, we got sugar cork.
  • 1:52:40 [t=6760] Speaker 949: Thank you.
  • 1:53:10 [t=6790] Speaker 951: um
  • 1:53:27 [t=6807] Speaker 389: because I was moved out I only had a single plan and so with that new position if you
  • 1:53:45 [t=6825] Speaker 390: guys decide to put somebody in there next year we had to bump it to a family a family plan to advertise higher just in case so that's the reason why that's different
  • 1:53:53 [t=6833] Speaker 287: Motion to approve. All in favor, aye. Aye. Passes.
  • 1:54:17 [t=6857] Speaker 17 (councillor): And we are at the drainage board. And they are really big spenders too, Judy.
  • 1:54:27 [t=6867] Speaker 3 (chair): I hear they're going to be taking us out to dinner.
  • 1:54:29 [t=6869] Speaker 379: look like they spent
  • 1:54:55 [t=6895] Speaker 967: we don't even have them up on the board
  • 1:54:58 [t=6898] Speaker 968: Okay.
  • 1:55:05 [t=6905] Speaker 969: We'll give them an approval on their budget. All in favor is in, we're all in favor. So, okay.
  • 1:55:14 [t=6914] Speaker 324: Election board, stand back.
  • 1:55:23 [t=6923] Speaker 972: Okay.
  • 1:55:28 [t=6928] Speaker 363 (staff): The increase on their contractual says it's just for inflation. the printing is because they'll need new stuff for next year for the
  • 1:56:12 [t=6972] Speaker 978: equipment new aged voting equipment they just need to replace some of their
  • 1:56:16 [t=6976] Speaker 178: older equipment for the up to date they had to update some stuff yeah
  • 1:56:28 [t=6988] Speaker 727: I'll scroll down.
  • 1:56:49 [t=7009] Speaker 384: Most of it, just getting ready for the election is what they're doing. So, yeah. Okay, motion to approve. All in favor say aye. Aye. Part to go.
  • 1:57:09 [t=7029] Speaker 987: Okay, we got the EMA.
  • 1:57:28 [t=7048] Speaker 990: Thank you.
  • 1:57:58 [t=7078] Speaker 364: 68,000 for the radios.
  • 1:58:08 [t=7088] Speaker 3 (chair): They're pretty steady guys. They hang in there, but they don't live large.
  • 1:58:17 [t=7097] Speaker 357: That's also advertised out of lit public safety, so we have to advertise it in both, so you have an option of where you want to pay it from.
  • 1:58:28 [t=7108] Speaker 995: Okay, motion to approve.
  • 1:58:35 [t=7115] Speaker 757: All in favor, aye. Okay, move it along. Mom.
  • 1:58:55 [t=7135] Speaker 1001: That's what I know, I guess.
  • 1:59:10 [t=7150] Speaker 1005: Yeah, moving on to group homes.
  • 1:59:15 [t=7155] Speaker 1007: G.I.S. doesn't have anything other than the one salary.
  • 1:59:32 [t=7172] Speaker 340: Motion to approve G.I.S. All of them say aye.
  • 1:59:36 [t=7176] Speaker 758: They're approved. And then we've got group. Group homes. Well, no Harrison.
  • 1:59:42 [t=7182] Speaker 837: Vicki, you guys aren't approving the ones just yet, so you didn't need to do that for GIS.
  • 1:59:47 [t=7187] Okay.
  • 1:59:59 [t=7199] Speaker 363 (staff): Some of the things on here, they'll be reflected on here and out of his non-reverting.
  • 2:00:08 [t=7208] Speaker 600: I couldn't think of the word. He has a few things on here that are reflected on both.
  • 2:00:14 [t=7214] Speaker 1016: I don't remember any big changes from what he had.
  • 2:00:31 [t=7231] Speaker 363 (staff): Okay, the laptops that were on here, we pulled them out and put them on Scott's budget for next year.
  • 2:00:44 [t=7244] Speaker 86: Thank you.
  • 2:01:14 [t=7274] Thank you. Oh, wow.
  • 2:02:00 [t=7320] Speaker 1027: Oh, wow.
  • 2:02:07 [t=7327] Judy Delisle (staff): looking at his non-reverting I think he took a lot of his cost out of the non-reverting for next
  • 2:02:15 [t=7335] Speaker 396: year so this will basically just be when we get to salaries be the salaries and just a hundred and one thousand dollars for what he has listed there
  • 2:02:37 [t=7357] Thank you.
  • 2:03:07 [t=7387] Speaker 1033: Any questions or requests?
  • 2:03:26 [t=7406] Speaker 5: No questions. Motion to approve. All in favor say aye. Aye. Okey dokey.
  • 2:03:35 [t=7415] Speaker 1040: Where are we going next? Harrison Assessor. Harrison Downship.
  • 2:03:56 [t=7436] Speaker 1043: Okay. Okay. That one's just salaries, so...
  • 2:04:13 [t=7453] Speaker 1045: HR?
  • 2:04:20 [t=7460] Speaker 362: Okay, that's just salaries, so we'll go to HR.
  • 2:04:26 [t=7466] Speaker 1049: Thank you.
  • 2:04:56 [t=7496] Speaker 362: hers is about the same looks like her contractual services went down
  • 2:05:07 [t=7507] Speaker 363 (staff): looks like her contractual services went down
  • 2:05:11 [t=7511] Speaker 1051: um but otherwise it's about the same
  • 2:05:15 [t=7515] Speaker 1054: that's good to have Okie dokie. Okie dokie.
  • 2:05:27 [t=7527] Speaker 1058: Otherwise hers is pretty much the same.
  • 2:05:45 [t=7545] Speaker 1060: They just chug along. alone any questions
  • 2:06:07 [t=7567] Speaker 384: okay motion to approve on Harrison Township assessor all in favor aye
  • 2:06:12 [t=7572] Speaker 1068: I think we're on HR right now.
  • 2:06:16 [t=7576] Speaker 122: Oh, Harrison says there was just salaries.
  • 2:06:24 [t=7584] Speaker 913: There's just salaries and HR, there's really no changes.
  • 2:06:42 [t=7602] Speaker 1073: No changes at all.
  • 2:06:52 [t=7612] Speaker 978: They had a decrease in some things, but there wasn't that much change.
  • 2:07:08 [t=7628] Speaker 565: Service agreements, $500 more.
  • 2:07:12 [t=7632] Speaker 30: Is it funny that you're still around $500? Just $500? Yeah.
  • 2:07:23 [t=7643] Speaker 978: But comparatively, $500 is nothing compared to any other numbers.
  • 2:07:32 [t=7652] Speaker 389: I believe that what you're seeing on the contractual services where it went up by $10,000 or down technically. It was an addition from last year, though, or an encumbrance,
  • 2:07:42 [t=7662] Speaker 1086: because of the handbook we redid it and she paid it out of there last year this year
  • 2:07:52 [t=7672] Speaker 1087: 26 are messing with me
  • 2:08:12 [t=7692] Speaker 662: If it's working for them, it's fine.
  • 2:08:19 [t=7699] Speaker 1092: Okay.
  • 2:08:21 [t=7701] Speaker 562: A motion to approve on HR. All in favor, aye. Motion carries.
  • 2:08:31 [t=7711] Speaker 753: Information services? services yes
  • 2:08:55 [t=7735] Speaker 1099: okay
  • 2:09:00 [t=7740] Speaker 363 (staff): here we added he upped several things because he he just needed more money for equipment and other items in his department his budget was way outdated and then at the bottom we added three new equipment others for our scanners that we asked for some laptops and prosecutor replacing
  • 2:09:25 [t=7765] Speaker 529: old computers we figured we think that should go under his budget instead of the individual
  • 2:09:30 [t=7770] Speaker 5: departments so we added that on here that's good thinking on that too you know to get all that yeah under his absolutely review yeah and then people know where to go to get
  • 2:09:40 [t=7780] Speaker 180 (councillor): one yes he has it he can keep track of the inventory and keep it all updated yes that's great that's really good good but that and just the other increases
  • 2:09:51 [t=7791] Speaker 537: are just because he hadn't asked for enough so he's really a good employee
  • 2:09:58 [t=7798] Speaker 180 (councillor): you know and he keeps track of everybody's stuff and keeps it all working It's a good deal. All righty. All in favor of approval on this is in terms of the aye, and it passes. Thank you so much.
  • 2:10:21 [t=7821] Speaker 1104: I believe next is the jail.
  • 2:10:28 [t=7828] Speaker 1105: Which is 380.
  • 2:10:32 [t=7832] Speaker 230 (chair): In jail. Infamous jail. Overcrowded and inhumane jail. That's a big budget.
  • 2:10:49 [t=7849] Speaker 600: Yes, the 670 is also reflected in lit 1233 for care of patients and inmates.
  • 2:11:02 [t=7862] Speaker 363 (staff): repair equipment went up they asked for 65,000 for vehicles and then a couple other things at the bottom the equipment new and the locks are also reflected in lit 1233
  • 2:11:22 [t=7882] Speaker 16: they're having to transport prisoners from the jail to the courthouse
  • 2:11:30 [t=7890] Speaker 180 (councillor): and back to the jail and back to the courthouse. Putting that jail down there was not the wisest thing that ever happened.
  • 2:11:38 [t=7898] Speaker 175 (councillor): They wanted to put it near the courthouse. And it was, you know, before you guys were around, it was a big fight, big, big, big fight to move it
  • 2:11:49 [t=7909] Speaker 180 (councillor): out of sight and out of mind. But now that's why we need more jailers to transport prisoners. I mean, it was not a wise decision, but c'est la vie.
  • 2:12:05 [t=7925] Speaker 384: So, let's see. Boy, it went up, didn't it? Yes.
  • 2:12:13 [t=7933] Speaker 427: The contractual services was also for adding body cams.
  • 2:12:19 [t=7939] Speaker 1111: Well, they're, like, working inside the jail, so.
  • 2:12:22 [t=7942] Speaker 1113: Which is about a must have these days.
  • 2:12:29 [t=7949] Speaker 1115: Yeah, I have to.
  • 2:12:40 [t=7960] Speaker 283: Isn't that crazy for inside the jail? Yeah.
  • 2:12:48 [t=7968] Speaker 1061: It's fine. Don't mind me.
  • 2:13:11 [t=7991] Speaker 911: There we go. Like you want it?
  • 2:13:14 [t=7994] Speaker 1121: Yep. Good job. Had it on the wrong line.
  • 2:13:16 [t=7996] Speaker 1123: Story of my life. Story of my life.
  • 2:13:23 [t=8003] Speaker 407: Are you ready for the motion?
  • 2:13:25 [t=8005] Speaker 1125 (chair): Yep. Motion to approve. All in favor, aye. Aye. The motion carries.
  • 2:13:36 [t=8016] Speaker 16: More moving and snapping right along, Larry.
  • 2:13:41 [t=8021] Speaker 1128: You're doing a great job.
  • 2:13:43 [t=8023] Speaker 17 (councillor): Well, so are your people. I tell you what, you deserve a raise.
  • 2:13:47 [t=8027] Speaker 1129: I'm not going to get that raise.
  • 2:13:50 [t=8030] Speaker 17 (councillor): None of us are.
  • 2:13:54 [t=8034] Speaker 1130: That's what we get for working so cheap.
  • 2:14:07 [t=8047] Speaker 1133: Juvenile court.
  • 2:14:09 [t=8049] Speaker 1136: Are we going to juvenile court? Yep. All righty, Ruth. We're right there with you.
  • 2:14:20 [t=8060] Speaker 616: That costs some money, doesn't it?
  • 2:14:27 [t=8067] Speaker 363 (staff): Yeah, the contractual services is for the cell phones, for 3600 of it.
  • 2:14:36 [t=8076] Speaker 1145: The other parts for mediation and competency evaluations?
  • 2:14:44 [t=8084] Speaker 1147: Because you don't have that on yours.
  • 2:14:48 [t=8088] Speaker 1148: I don't have it on here.
  • 2:14:54 [t=8094] Speaker 1043: They asked for $3,000 for office furniture. Looks like most of the rest of it's about the same.
  • 2:15:06 [t=8106] Speaker 16: You guys should go over there and take a look and watch that court. I know you're so busy it's hard to get out of here, but it's a sight to see.
  • 2:15:18 [t=8118] Speaker 180 (councillor): It's so busy, it's crazy. Is it? And they roll them through there. You know, it's what we should spend money on, quite honestly, to get those kids on track. Yes.
  • 2:15:31 [t=8131] Speaker 1125 (chair): It's juvenile court and juvenile center and the group homes. I mean, it's all woven together and trying to keep them out of the community, corrections and trying to keep them out of jail and trying not to build that bigger and that bigger and that bigger. And then you see how much money we spend on all these places. It's really something. Yes.
  • 2:15:56 [t=8156] Speaker 175 (councillor): if we can just get the kids on the right track I mean that's a trick to it all
  • 2:16:06 [t=8166] Speaker 287: well that's a lot of dough you guys
  • 2:16:12 [t=8172] Speaker 28: almost two million dollars
  • 2:16:19 [t=8179] Speaker 5: not almost it is two million We can't give a discount.
  • 2:16:32 [t=8192] Speaker 384: Well, a motion to approve, Ms. Nancy. Shall we vote?
  • 2:16:41 [t=8201] Speaker 287: All in favor say aye. Aye. And it is approved.
  • 2:16:48 [t=8208] Speaker 1102: Next, we're going along.
  • 2:17:00 [t=8220] Speaker 1157: This will be juvenile corrections.
  • 2:17:18 [t=8238] Speaker 1072: Okay. Okay.
  • 2:17:30 [t=8250] Speaker 1159: That wasn't really any different.
  • 2:17:35 [t=8255] Speaker 978: She doesn't really have any changes.
  • 2:17:40 [t=8260] Speaker 1161: No, not much.
  • 2:17:48 [t=8268] Speaker 1162: Mm-hmm.
  • 2:17:58 [t=8278] Speaker 1164: Is there a security system?
  • 2:18:02 [t=8282] Speaker 1166: No.
  • 2:18:07 [t=8287] Speaker 1171: Uh, even on court? Mm-hmm.
  • 2:18:13 [t=8293] Speaker 1172: Is there a security system?
  • 2:18:18 [t=8298] Speaker 585: No, I'm just a... Mediation, call me now, and then there are on-call phones.
  • 2:18:31 [t=8311] Speaker 997: Juvenile corrections, we got a... Juvenile corrections.
  • 2:18:38 [t=8318] Speaker 1175: Juvenile corrections, we believe that. Okay.
  • 2:18:44 [t=8324] Speaker 343: Prosecutors got a flock.
  • 2:18:48 [t=8328] Speaker 324: Not much. It's not bad. It's bad, but it's...
  • 2:18:55 [t=8335] Speaker 379: Probably after the prosecutor, we ought to hang it up.
  • 2:19:18 [t=8358] Speaker 424: Well, they want us out of here, though.
  • 2:19:22 [t=8362] Speaker 1184: Yeah. Two-thirty.
  • 2:19:23 [t=8363] Two-thirty.
  • 2:19:24 [t=8364] Speaker 424: I know, but I got a bad headache.
  • 2:19:28 [t=8368] Speaker 230 (chair): Do you have a bad headache? That's okay. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Push ahead. Push ahead. I'd like to get it done.
  • 2:19:39 [t=8379] Speaker 144: Rolling through on the river. Prosecutor, let's hit it.
  • 2:19:48 [t=8388] Speaker 1192: Go ahead.
  • 2:19:54 [t=8394] Speaker 1191: Go ahead.
  • 2:19:56 [t=8396] Speaker 1192: I don't know if that is absolutely here. I don't know if that's what I'm going to do. I don't know if that's what I'm going to do.
  • 2:20:04 [t=8404] Speaker 950: I don't know if that's what I'm going to do.
  • 2:20:07 [t=8407] Speaker 1194: I don't understand.
  • 2:20:12 [t=8412] Speaker 5: It's not, I mean, it's a couple hundred thousand, but it's for us. It's not that big of a deal. So you're through.
  • 2:20:29 [t=8429] Speaker 1193: Yeah. Yeah.
  • 2:20:35 [t=8435] Speaker 1203: Okay, motion to approve on table aye. Aye. Okay, roll on. Public defender.
  • 2:21:05 [t=8465] Judy Delisle (staff): on the public defender if you see prepare and file transcripts in 26 it was only 2000 That was a fat finger error when it was getting entered. So it's back up to the $20,000 that Gretchen had requested.
  • 2:21:44 [t=8504] Speaker 231: This looks pretty decent, actually.
  • 2:21:53 [t=8513] Speaker 757: Motion to approve. All in favor, aye. Aye. Motion carries.
  • 2:22:02 [t=8522] Speaker 947: Hold on a moment.
  • 2:22:12 [t=8532] Speaker 1211: We need to go back.
  • 2:22:13 [t=8533] Speaker 414: We do?
  • 2:22:14 [t=8534] Speaker 115: Yeah, because there's the public defender grant for $182,716.
  • 2:22:27 [t=8547] Speaker 122: That's the last line.
  • 2:22:32 [t=8552] Speaker 1216: I'll go back to my notes and see if I see anything from when she came in.
  • 2:22:48 [t=8568] Speaker 1218: Where is it?
  • 2:22:52 [t=8572] Speaker 346: I think that was left in from before.
  • 2:23:02 [t=8582] Speaker 1220: Oh, at the bottom.
  • 2:23:06 [t=8586] Speaker 175 (councillor): I see. 182-716. Yeah.
  • 2:23:12 [t=8592] Speaker 1225: I don't have anything about that. I think that.
  • 2:23:14 [t=8594] Speaker 175 (councillor): What do we do about it?
  • 2:23:16 [t=8596] Speaker 1225: Well, I think you should just hold off on that until we talk to Gretchen, but I think that that was not.
  • 2:23:21 [t=8601] Speaker 178: Not included?
  • 2:23:22 [t=8602] Speaker 1225: Yeah, I think it shouldn't be included.
  • 2:23:25 [t=8605] Speaker 178: Do we have to approve it separately?
  • 2:23:29 [t=8609] Speaker 1225: Yeah.
  • 2:23:29 [t=8609] Speaker 407: Do we just need a motion?
  • 2:23:32 [t=8612] Speaker 543: no we'll just we'll just postpone it postpone the whole budget hers yes yes right until we
  • 2:23:40 [t=8620] Speaker 184: find out exactly what is what it was okay then the public defender motion is rescinded
  • 2:23:53 [t=8633] Speaker 1212: um there she is did you know we were talking about
  • 2:23:56 [t=8636] Speaker 1231: What is that?
  • 2:24:01 [t=8641] Speaker 1233: We just approved it without you.
  • 2:24:03 [t=8643] Speaker 1234: I heard it, but I don't know what you're referencing. Do you have more of these?
  • 2:24:13 [t=8653] Speaker 1235: I don't want to take you around.
  • 2:24:15 [t=8655] Speaker 1244: No, honey, I have a phone call. Is that a comment? The texts that are coming in, your quote that
  • 2:24:23 [t=8663] Speaker 1250: yeah so they right we would not be
  • 2:24:41 [t=8681] Speaker 1251: yeah did but
  • 2:24:59 [t=8699] Speaker 1252: So it's just gone. Got it. okay i'm aware of that
  • 2:25:54 [t=8754] Speaker 1265: Thank you. Oh, I know. So I'm just going to...
  • 2:26:27 [t=8787] Speaker 1203: Now, the prosecutors, for every prosecutor, we have to have a public defender. For every deputy prosecutor, we have to have a public defender.
  • 2:26:47 [t=8807] Speaker 1269: It was in a cross-dealing ring, or was it just one different thing? Because we are on a salary order that modified that now.
  • 2:26:53 [t=8813] Speaker 543: He's asking to, Rob is asking to move the deputy prosecutors up to like 90,000.
  • 2:27:01 [t=8821] Speaker 1271: Oh, he's asking for deputy prosecutor raises. That would affect everybody. That's what I said. There is one. Thank you. Mm-hmm.
  • 2:27:08 [t=8828] Speaker 1251: There is, in the faculty we need to do the salary. We have a base salary and a high salary. And then there's a category that's put out by the prosecutor's office that is,
  • 2:27:20 [t=8840] Speaker 1252: I believe it was referring to trial deputies, maybe.
  • 2:27:32 [t=8852] Speaker 1203: I haven't really investigated it.
  • 2:27:34 [t=8854] Speaker 1252: Yeah.
  • 2:27:35 [t=8855] Speaker 1251: I intended to check that with you, but I had to go back to the
  • 2:27:50 [t=8870] Speaker 3 (chair): have the opportunity to talk to you so yeah there you go
  • 2:28:07 [t=8887] Speaker 1280: i'm sorry thank you scott i'm not on my game scott came in here hot i'm like they have a question i
  • 2:28:16 [t=8896] Speaker 1283: I got to run in. But that is correct, that it would be across the board if that's the what, if that's the actual position they are referencing, it would be. And then we have it there because we have the supplemental one. And then we also have the title for a budget. So I don't know if there were any.
  • 2:28:40 [t=8920] Speaker 1284: Oh, just county general.
  • 2:28:41 [t=8921] Speaker 1283: OK, thank you. Questions.
  • 2:28:43 [t=8923] Speaker 1286: Sorry. Sorry to bother you.
  • 2:28:45 [t=8925] Speaker 1287: thank you thank you for being so aware well no that's okay i actually thought you were texting us about the september thing so then i was sitting with bill and bill's like i just got
  • 2:28:55 [t=8935] Speaker 1289: a text i'm like oh i better go i might be getting a text coming through thank you for coming in
  • 2:29:02 [t=8942] Speaker 1291: appreciate it i appreciate that i saved you my contact so it wouldn't go to unknown
  • 2:29:10 [t=8950] Speaker 1293: oh we feel better thank you thank you
  • 2:29:15 [t=8955] Speaker 1297: Okay, now we ready to roll.
  • 2:29:30 [t=8970] Speaker 1299: Okay, now...
  • 2:29:45 [t=8985] Speaker 1303: to now approve public defender. Okay, ready to, ready to, um,
  • 2:29:52 [t=8992] Speaker 1306: you want, you want us to approve public defender? Okay, motion to, motion to approve public
  • 2:29:59 [t=8999] Speaker 1125 (chair): defender budget. All in favor say aye. Aye. Motion carries.
  • 2:30:04 [t=9004] Speaker 1204: And now, Purdue Extension.
  • 2:30:15 [t=9015] Speaker 1022: For their twos, threes, and fours, they didn't really have a whole lot of changes. They had a few things that went down, actually.
  • 2:30:35 [t=9035] Speaker 1160: So they don't have any big additions this year.
  • 2:30:45 [t=9045] Judy Delisle (staff): i believe that's because purdue's taking on some of their expenses this year something new that we haven't had
  • 2:31:03 [t=9063] Speaker 562: okay motion to approve the purdue public
  • 2:31:06 [t=9066] Speaker 281: Purdue Extension. All in favor say aye. Aye. Motion carries.
  • 2:31:17 [t=9077] Speaker 622: Which brings us to the recorder's office.
  • 2:31:27 [t=9087] Speaker 1102: That's a nice tidy office operating efficiently.
  • 2:31:32 [t=9092] Speaker 1318: So you're just looking at the series three, which is just behind my lens.
  • 2:31:47 [t=9107] Speaker 576: That's something that Nancy knows a good deal about, is the recorder's office. I recall you ran that like a tough young lady.
  • 2:31:56 [t=9116] Speaker 1322: Okie dokie.
  • 2:31:58 [t=9118] Speaker 576: We have a motion to approve. All in favor say aye. Recorded office motions for budget is approved.
  • 2:32:19 [t=9139] Speaker 1322: And that brings us to the sheriff's office. Ooh, baby.
  • 2:32:29 [t=9149] Speaker 72 (councillor): That adds up to a few buckaroos. Hmm.
  • 2:32:39 [t=9159] Speaker 1327: Um...
  • 2:33:09 [t=9189] Speaker 600: several increases that reflected in public safety.
  • 2:33:18 [t=9198] Speaker 913: They have the body cameras, radio equipment, system hardware, new equipment,
  • 2:33:29 [t=9209] Speaker 1022: for vehicles, and vehicle repair went up that's just
  • 2:33:47 [t=9227] Speaker 124 (staff): I think they're contractual it was like 1.1 million and with 760,000 of it
  • 2:33:53 [t=9233] Speaker 357: that's right and then until that left 350,000 in the county general
  • 2:34:02 [t=9242] Speaker 175 (councillor): Anything else you can think of, Judy, that we need to know about on this?
  • 2:34:20 [t=9260] Speaker 1334: Pretty straightforward.
  • 2:34:23 [t=9263] Judy Delisle (staff): Just something you guys may have to put more back into County General depending on what want to do it lift public safety and the as we cut into it this is the sheriff's department uses
  • 2:34:35 [t=9275] Judy Delisle (staff): lip public safety also and in your handouts that i gave you it tells you exactly on lip public safety what we pay out of it and who uses it so that's where we reimburse county general
  • 2:34:50 [t=9290] Judy Delisle (staff): like 2.1 million out of it every year
  • 2:34:59 [t=9299] Thank you. Thank you.
  • 2:35:59 [t=9359] Speaker 458: Can we hold off on the sheriff and just let us refigure some numbers just just in case make sure we have it reflected here and in public safety at the same yeah so let's hold
  • 2:36:22 [t=9382] Speaker 1341: off on sheriff if you don't mind good idea
  • 2:36:29 [t=9389] Speaker 1345: Okay, I'm going to go with soil and water next.
  • 2:36:59 [t=9419] Speaker 1022: On this one, their biggest increase is the $6,000 for their dues.
  • 2:37:18 [t=9438] Speaker 1348: And then it's big.
  • 2:37:21 [t=9441] Speaker 1350: the state association greedy so state association i'm on that board and they really jacked
  • 2:37:41 [t=9461] Speaker 1314: motion to approve
  • 2:37:43 [t=9463] Speaker 736: Okay, all in favor, aye. Motion carried.
  • 2:38:13 [t=9493] Speaker 1357: It's pretty much the same. Steady Bruce.
  • 2:38:25 [t=9505] Motion to approve on this one.
  • 2:38:31 [t=9511] Speaker 735: All the favor say aye. Aye. And it's approved on the surveyor.
  • 2:38:38 [t=9518] Speaker 1362: there
  • 2:39:08 [t=9548] Speaker 1364: I can't even tell you that.
  • 2:39:11 [t=9551] Speaker 133: To stir up trouble.
  • 2:39:12 [t=9552] Speaker 1365: No, we're under a severe thunderstorm.
  • 2:39:14 [t=9554] Speaker 1366: Watch.
  • 2:39:15 [t=9555] Speaker 1367: If there's still a warning or tornado warning, I'll come get you and we'll go downstairs.
  • 2:39:18 [t=9558] Speaker 531: For where? For where?
  • 2:39:20 [t=9560] Speaker 1367: Here.
  • 2:39:21 [t=9561] Speaker 531: Warning?
  • 2:39:23 [t=9563] Speaker 1371: No, not yet. I was telling you, we're under a severe thunderstorm. Watch. If it turns into something, where's everything?
  • 2:39:29 [t=9569] Speaker 1376: You won't come over here.
  • 2:39:31 [t=9571] Speaker 1375: You'll be running for your life.
  • 2:39:32 [t=9572] Speaker 1376: Actually, I'll be here for you.
  • 2:39:38 [t=9578] Speaker 1384: Thank you. You get the board of people first.
  • 2:39:45 [t=9585] Speaker 1125 (chair): Would you guys feel comfortable just saying, let's finish up tomorrow? Okay. How about let's call it a day. We've accomplished a great deal and we'll finish up. scott if you're listening we're gonna call it a day and we will recess until what time tomorrow 10 o'clock tomorrow thank you all for your wonderful
  • 2:40:19 [t=9619] Speaker 151: attention we've accomplished a lot today thanks so much the meeting stands in recess
  • 2:40:36 [t=9636] Speaker 1389: back over here on my little screen
  • 2:40:39 [t=9639] Speaker 1393: you guys be careful okay I'm not going anywhere
  • 2:40:58 [t=9658] Speaker 1396: I don't know
  • 2:41:06 [t=9666] Speaker 1399: Why isn't that true?
  • 2:41:24 [t=9684] Yes, ma'am.
  • 2:41:26 [t=9686] Speaker 1402: Do you need any help?
  • 2:41:32 [t=9692] Speaker 1403: You sure? Okay.
  • 2:41:36 [t=9696] Oh
  • 2:42:06 [t=9726] Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.